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  • Aidan replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    Don’t forget the old “fired my rifle in the air like a mortar over the wall” trick.

  • SteveT replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    or the old “ricochet off the cigarette tin in my pocket” saved me but not the bloke behind me…

     

  • Aidan replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    “But you can fire at a group of 8 men, 2 of whom are behind a 20′ tall solid wall, get 2 kills and your opponent can remove the 2 that you have no LOS to at all.”

    Guess your sniper has a gun with a curved barrel or something.  /s

  • “Very wise. Will save you from having to fill out all those “Friendly Fire Incident Forms.

    Lol, those are the worst. Very time consuming and embarrassing.

  • “I think I’ll model a FAO, but if I don’t like using it then it’ll just get used as a mortar spotter or something.”

    Very wise. Will save you from having to  fill out all those Friendly Fire Incident Forms.

     

  • SteveT replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    The removal of casualties in this game is indeed confusing. When I started  this game, my thinking was naturally that I was taking out the ones I could see first.

    But you can fire at a group of  8 men, 2 of whom are behind a 20′ tall solid wall, get 2 kills and your opponent can remove the 2 that you have no LOS to at all.

    Even with e…[Read more]

  • Hahaha yeah lol. Troops be like: ” sorry sir, we accidentally shot down our air support because it looked like a Stuka.” Commanding officer: “get some glasses! How does a P47 look like a Stuka you idiots!?”

    Yeah I see. Looks like for casual games it’ll be a good unit to include for the randomness and comedy.

    I think I’ll model a FAO, but if I…[Read more]

  • Thanks for all the input. I’ll be refereeing a tournament in a few months and wanted to make sure I call this correctly. I have always read it and interpreted it the was Alessio put it, so I feel better seeing that. I had a more argumentative player argue the opposite recently in a friendly game. Sometimes Bolt Action errs on the side of…[Read more]

  • Question has been asked before, Alessio responded but it never made it to an FAQ.  Nat has it right and it’s measurement to the closest that determines whether minimum range prevents the shot, even if some models are out of minimum range.

    Post being responded to was by Joshua Cope, 21 April 2019, Bolt Action Facebook…[Read more]

  • Confused fight only applies to units moving on from reserve.  First Wave units are not in reserve, they are a separate category and exempt from rules that specify reserves (such as the order test at -1).  The scenario still requires picking of a side, a step which has no function if the first wave are not tied to a particular side.  You’d have to…[Read more]

  • IIRC – yes, thats the whole point of surrounded… the enemy can (and do) come from any direction!

  • Nat replied to the topic Forward Air Observers for the US in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    it has the potential for great comedy … epically if you have a lot of flack and shoot down your own aircraft! :p

    Its one of those rules that can greatly vary between games from really bad (have 2 friendly airstrikes) to absolutely evil (2 airstrikes that neutralise the whole enemy force) and pretty much everything inbetween.

    It also has the…[Read more]

  • I would if/when I play the US….

  • As a soon-to-be US player, if I choose to field a FAO for 75 points, I get the chance to drop 2 airstrikes.

    Is it worth it? On one hand, I want the make the most of the US’ national rules, to get the full experience. On the other, I might be setting myself up to get my own troops nuked twice.

    Note that this is for casual games only, AFAIK there…[Read more]

  • Surrounded and Man Hunt scenarios seem similar in their use of the ‘Confused fight’ allowing reserves to enter from all directions. However the Attackers first wave in Man Hunt must enter from their sides table edge. In ‘Surrounded’ there is no such stipulation, so can they enter from any table edge?

    Thanks

    Martyn

  • SteveT replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    What Nat said.

  • Nat replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    No that fails because a spotter only provides Line of Sight  EVERYTHING else which includes range is taken from firing unit

  • Thanks for the responses. You found what I was looking for under shooting on page 53. “Measure the distance between each firing model and the closest visible enemy model in the target unit.” means if part of the target unit is within the minimum distance, then the shot misses. At least I can point to a rule to make the argument.

    However, I can…[Read more]

  • SteveT replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    Under VEHICLES

    “…distances are measured to and/or from the closest point of the hull of the model itself”

    Under SHOOTING

    Measure the distance between each firing model and the closest visible enemy model in the target unit.”

     

    Note that they  seem to use Target and Target Unit interchangeably, even in the same…[Read more]

  • Nat replied to the topic Indirect Fire Minimum Distance in the forum Bolt Action 2 years ago

    its clear… you measure to the closest part of the vehicle / building or model of a unit.  If that is within minimum distance the shot fails

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