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  • #191851
    Kar98k
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    @Stuart Harrison: Just to confirm, you are saying “Yes” to Jeff Knez’s question? Which was:

    “Let’s say I have a Inexperienced transport that has a MMG for a weapon (a German SdKfz 251/1 halftrack for example). When it shoots, it incurs a -1
    To Hit penalty due to being inexperienced. Got it.

    Now let’s say I have a Veteran infantry squad riding in the transport. Can it shoot the MMG instead so that it doesn’t incur the -1 to Hit penalty?”

    I’m not so sure the answer is “Yes”, and here is why: 1) The transport’s MG (MMG or HMG) is fired by the Inexperienced crew and not by the passengers – I will explain. 2) If the transport had additional MGs (usually MMGs), they could be fired by the passengers. However the original question by Jeff Knez was, “I have a Inexperienced transport that has a[sic] MMG for a weapon”, implying the transport has only one MG with no additional MGs added. According to the rules as written, “first declare which weapon is operated by the crew and which are operated by the passengers.” (see page 146). Granted, it would have been a whole lot more clear had it said, “first declare which weapon is operated by the crew and then which are operated by the passengers.”, which is what I think they meant.

    #191852
    Stuart Harrison
    Participant

    I am not saying the answer to his question is ‘yes’.

    The crew’s penalties apply to the weapon fired by the crew.  The passenger’s penalty applies to weapons fired by the passenger’s.

    The passenger’s only come into it after the single weapon permitted to the crew.  They don’t get to take over all the weapons, just the ones that are ‘more than one weapon’ (and yes, that sentence could be worded better if the second edition discussions had been applied to refine it).

    #191867
    Anthony Miles
    Participant

    Hopefully a quick question. Do the Army Special Rules in the “Armies of” supplements supersede those in the Main Rule Book or are they additional?

    #191868
    Kar98k
    Participant

    Hopefully a quick question. Do the Army Special Rules in the “Armies of” supplements supersede those in the Main Rule Book or are they additional?

    Hopefully a quick answer 🙂

    It is either one or the other, but not both

    Now for a longer response 😉

    You and your opponent must decide whether to use the “Army Lists” and their special rules from either the Bolt Action 3E rule book, or the “Armies of…” books. Not both at the same time.

    Also note that it’s not just the army special rules that might be different, but some of the units themselves. There are several to note, but here is an easy one; if you look at the American MMG team, you will see a difference. In the Bolt Action rule book (in the Army Lists), the MMG team has an “Extra Selection (MMG only)” special rule, but you do not get this option in the “Armies of the United States” book.

    • This reply was modified 1 week, 5 days ago by Kar98k.
    #191870
    Stuart Harrison
    Participant

    The intent is that MRB lists are entirely replaced when the Armies of book is published.  This would include the interim army special rules.

    P199, 5th para:

    “These provisional Army Lists will be superseded by the relevant Armies of… book when each is published (e.g. the Germany list in this rulebook is replaced by the lists in the Armies of Germany book once released.”

    If you don’t have the Armies of… yet, most people have no problem with using the MRB instead for a friendly game.  For an event you would need to check with the event organisers.

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