Rules Questions

[Kar98k]

@Stuart Harrison: Just to confirm, you are saying “Yes” to Jeff Knez’s question? Which was:

“Let’s say I have a Inexperienced transport that has a MMG for a weapon (a German SdKfz 251/1 halftrack for example). When it shoots, it incurs a -1
To Hit penalty due to being inexperienced. Got it.

Now let’s say I have a Veteran infantry squad riding in the transport. Can it shoot the MMG instead so that it doesn’t incur the -1 to Hit penalty?”

I’m not so sure the answer is “Yes”, and here is why: 1) The transport’s MG (MMG or HMG) is fired by the Inexperienced crew and not by the passengers – I will explain. 2) If the transport had additional MGs (usually MMGs), they could be fired by the passengers. However the original question by Jeff Knez was, “I have a Inexperienced transport that has a[sic] MMG for a weapon”, implying the transport has only one MG with no additional MGs added. According to the rules as written, “first declare which weapon is operated by the crew and which are operated by the passengers.” (see page 146). Granted, it would have been a whole lot more clear had it said, “first declare which weapon is operated by the crew and then which are operated by the passengers.”, which is what I think they meant.

[Stuart Harrison]

I am not saying the answer to his question is ‘yes’.

The crew’s penalties apply to the weapon fired by the crew.  The passenger’s penalty applies to weapons fired by the passenger’s.

The passenger’s only come into it after the single weapon permitted to the crew.  They don’t get to take over all the weapons, just the ones that are ‘more than one weapon’ (and yes, that sentence could be worded better if the second edition discussions had been applied to refine it).

[Anthony Miles]

Hopefully a quick question. Do the Army Special Rules in the “Armies of” supplements supersede those in the Main Rule Book or are they additional?

[Kar98k]

Hopefully a quick question. Do the Army Special Rules in the “Armies of” supplements supersede those in the Main Rule Book or are they additional?

Hopefully a quick answer 🙂

It is either one or the other, but not both

Now for a longer response 😉

You and your opponent must decide whether to use the “Army Lists” and their special rules from either the Bolt Action 3E rule book, or the “Armies of…” books. Not both at the same time.

Also note that it’s not just the army special rules that might be different, but some of the units themselves. There are several to note, but here is an easy one; if you look at the American MMG team, you will see a difference. In the Bolt Action rule book (in the Army Lists), the MMG team has an “Extra Selection (MMG only)” special rule, but you do not get this option in the “Armies of the United States” book.

• This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Kar98k.

[Stuart Harrison]

The intent is that MRB lists are entirely replaced when the Armies of book is published.  This would include the interim army special rules.

P199, 5th para:

“These provisional Army Lists will be superseded by the relevant Armies of… book when each is published (e.g. the Germany list in this rulebook is replaced by the lists in the Armies of Germany book once released.”

If you don’t have the Armies of… yet, most people have no problem with using the MRB instead for a friendly game.  For an event you would need to check with the event organisers.

[Anthony Miles]

Thanks

[Jim welch]

Light Mortars and the Brutish Paras. Hi The British Para had light mortars down to Section Level. In the rules when talking about teams weapons you hint at more than LMG  being used a section level is this possible? It’s seems This could have been addressed in the  army list. To note these where a Modified weapon used to lay Smoke only. 6 Rounds only  where  carried. To get this to work you need better smoke rules

[Stuart Harrison]

“In the rules when talking about teams weapons you hint at more than LMG  being used a section level is this possible?” – there are multiple units in the game with team weapons other than LMG at section level – examples include light mortars (eg: Japanese grenadier sections,) and flame throwers (engineer sections for multiple nations).

Light mortars are already an option for British Airborne Sections, AoGB p30, fourth option in the list.

[Eric T Holmes]

Can Soviet Platoon Leaders and Company Commanders ride tanks if their platoon is made up of Tank Riders?  Also, can the Light Mortars, and any ancillary Teams ride the tanks, as well?

If the Officer has a Banner assigned to its team, and the officer team is riding on top of a tank, is the banner displayed?  This is dependent on the previous question.

I know this might sound crazy, by the end of the war, almost every country had infantry riding atop tanks.  Wow, what a fast way to get somewhere.

Along those lines, an officer on board a command half track should be able to “Snap To” infantry carried in at least two half tracks (transports).  That would include any carried teams or specialty half tracks … SdKfz 251/8 or M3 Mortar Carrier come to mind.  I know this could be a game changer, but realize each squad leader would be in command of “his” own ride since he’d be in possession of the orders for the day.   (yeah, yeah, yeah … it’s from Tank Wars.)

This kinda stuff might come from some gentlemen that actually rode into the fight, and therefore became Haus Rules.

YMMV

Play the game … and

Roll sixes!

[Eric T Holmes]

Here’s another conundrum concerning MMG armed transports. Except for any internal hull mounted MMGs, passengers had been known to grab the external MMGs and use them for their own fire power.  Think of the German Panzer Grenadiers or the American Armored Infantry units. The guns went with them and their transports pulled away.  (Yeah, yeah, yeah … Another Tank Wars scenario or Haus Rule.)  YMMV

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