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  • #158641
    Enquiring_Mind
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    Hi everyone,
    I have a soft-spot for the various conversions the Germans did where they tried to cram a far too big a gun onto a tiny tank chassis.

    We’ve already got the Marders and the 15 cm sFH auf Lorraine Schlepper(f) but there’s other examples.

    Vehicles like the Panzerjager 35R 731(f) which was based on the Renault R35.

    Then there’s the SIG33 Bison where the Pz I chassis got a 150mm howitzer added!

    Finally, a Romanian upgrade to their obsolete Renault R35 tanks with a 45mm gun which changed their appearance quite a bit. They were called Vânătorul de Care R35.

    #157223

    In reply to: Sperrbrecher M 32 Mur

    invisible officer
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    The model is totally scratch built. Sperrbrecher 32 Mur was rated as one of the best designed Sperrbrecher. That was possible because it was still building at time of being taken over. It was one of many built for Norddeutschen Lloyd by Deschimag in Bremen. All had river names. 14,2 kts, 3290 BRT

    It was finished in October 1943 with all the latest devices. Including 2 x 10,5 cm guns, 2x 3,7 cm in twin mounting, 2 x 4 cm quads and 7x 2 cm. In addition RAG (Raketenabwurfgerät) rocket lauchers got fitted. It could fire HE rockets and chute/steel cable ones. A mix was fired, no Sperrbrecher downed a plane with them but the planes kept distance.

    Being the most modern Sperrbrecher Mur was sent to the hotspot. It was much needed for submarine escort in Biskaya. For that it had to pass the Channel. 29.1.1944 it went through the Dover Calais area. It was escorted by M292 and M 370 (both type 1940) and R-Boote from 2nd and 4th Flotilla. Former French escorts PA 2 and PA 3 got added.

    The dance started with MTB attacks at dawn. Next came radar controlled long range coastal artillery from Dover area. And then air attacks. A group from B-Dienst was on ship, getting informations from British wireless. The coastal radar was countered by metal foil
    Next morning saw all German vessels still afloat. Mur alone had 190 holes, 2 dead and two badly wounded.

    The Sperrbrecher had been very successful in escorting U-Boote. In more than 3500 missions just one submarine was lost by a mine.
    D-Day cut the area of BSW (Befehlshaber Sicherung West) in two. The Diesel engine Mur had to reduce the missions due to Diesel shortages in Western France. Coal burning Sperrbrecher took over.

    26.8.1944 Mur was decommissioned at St. Nazaire. The VES and arms got taken away for use on land. A conversion to Hospital ship with 600 beds was started. It was registered with International Red Cross as München. The large numbers of wounded made hospital ships a must.

    Another former Sperrbrecher, the Rostock, had been converted first. The officers and crew had been from merchant navy and everything was done according to international law to make it into a legal hospital ship. 19.9.44 it left Lorient for Spain with 211 wounded. Staff included 11 nurses. But MTB 696 and 713 approached the vessel and forced it to go to Portsmouth. A series of protests by Germany, Spain, some Neutrals and the USA (!) followed but Rostock was not set free. The RN claimed it to be a secret warship.

    Following that the München / Mur stayed at St. Nazaire, painted white with red crosses.
    It survived the war with some damage from air attacks on the harbor and became French booty.

    The French navy first used it as troop carrier. 1958 it was converted and became Île d’Oléron, used as experimental rocket ship. In that role it served for decades

    #156695

    In reply to: Late Fairmile D

    invisible officer
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    You may scratch them IO style. Or wait. There are more versions of Fairmile D in the pipeline. Ooops, fight Club rule breaking??? Mea culpa. 😉

    One might argue about the very late war choices in Fairmile and MTB made for first releases. But they are “cool”.

    Firepower increase with two 6pdr was done on many boats and became standard in the four 18″ tube boats.

    Unfortunately the front unit conversions are not ever well documented.

    Not to forget the modified D class No 5001-29 with two 6pdr and two 21″ TT.

    #156514

    In reply to: Scenario 5

    George
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    “R Boote. They will be out soon.” Will they?

    The latest iterations are a 1/350 scale corvette; and Barrage balloons, for god sake! Have you got a ceiling high enough to take them in scale?

    Thanks for the E-boot/ R boot suggestion. I hadn’t thought of it.

    As for conversions, I’ve made two proxy BPB MGB from the Vosper Mark II hull and the PT boat hull. Not modeller’s models, but good enough for wargames. They have the same hull points as a Vosper.

    #155892

    In reply to: Rules Queries

    invisible officer
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    There is a big mix in English writing about the “F-Lighter”. There are many types of Marinefährprähme. For Germans short MFP, not just F. The F was used with the number to name the individual. Fährprahm …

    In addition there was a letter. That gave the type. For example F 220 AM was a MFP type A converted for minelaying. An A type had a draught of 1,45 m but a AM 1,48 m.

    Many (From types A, B, C and C2) got converted (on stocks or later) into Artilleriefährpräme. These got an armor of beton for amo chambers and steel at bridge. With the conversion a MFP got a new name.

    For example F 817 D became AF 97. 8. AT Flotille, sunk 26.8.44 bei MTB near Capa d’Antifer. One of the very few AFP sunk by Torpedo. Draught of the AFP was 1,70 m.

    A bit more confusion? AFP in Northern seas and Black sea got named AF in Kriegsmarine use but in Mediterranean KF. And Danube AT.

    Some only part converted in Med. got named KF F and original AFP number.

    MFP 701 – 800 are built in Italy. Many became German post September 1943. So MZ 704 A that became F 704 A.
    There had been A, B and D Versions among the Italian MZ.

    #155670
    elcee
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    That’s all the guns i build so far. A twin Bofors for a Captain Class Frigate (Buckley Class conversion) and a set of 37mm twin guns for my scratch build Sperrbrecher. Of course the barrels are to thick, but at arms length you really cant tell. The rest of the dimensions are close to the respective scale.

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    #155507
    invisible officer
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    No idea why the Forum did that fuss with the pics in last post. And no way to delete the doubles.

    At first I had planned to use the Warlord Minensucher as base for conversions. But the work would be harder than total scratch.

    Hope they will bring us some true 1/300 in the next months, not just the other company plastic 350 stuff

    #154554

    In reply to: Komet and Meteorit

    invisible officer
    Participant

    My main problem was the Bridge/Island structure. Eyssen had made the AMC conversion with many many options for disguise. So hardly two pics show it the same.
    The lower deck could be open, closed, partly open…….

    I got a dark picture showing the Komet disguised as Sperrbrecher. The gun “ports” open for a Training (?) shooting. So I used the Island style from that. Unfortunately not dated, so may be before first or second cruise. Or even taken from one of the escorts in channel?

    Or the sun protection on top of upper bridge. I did it without for channel but that is a ??? I guess it is wrong because the ship had one in civil use. But I can add it any time later.

    Some claim a fixed rangefinder Langbasis on upper bridge, others a hand held one. (There was one used aft by the AA commander)

    The heavy beam was taken away from mast post Meteorit loss but was rigged again in some disguises. In that dark picture it had it. So…..

    #154526

    In reply to: Komet and Meteorit

    invisible officer
    Participant

    Thank you.

    Some details came from the print Edition of Eyssen’s Kriegstagebuch. Like pics of the gun in Luke III and a mast mounted 2 cm.
    (Fascinating reading)

    I got other details from Arbeitskreis Gröner. The plan in Gröner Die Deutschen Kriegsschiffe 1815-945 vol 3 is a bit small.

    There are some ??? about conversions between the two cruises.

    Well, I did it as a wargaming model, not a collecting one.

    Good pics of LS 2 are published in Squadron Signal Schnellboot in Action 4018

    #154195
    invisible officer
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    Nerd me starts doing „generic“ models that come without a name or class given with a research for the model of the model. (If someone from Warlord’s Cruel Sea team can give me a hint for the tanker ….. ?)

    No problem with the German VP Trawler and even less with that British one.
    160 Straths had been ordered in WW I by RN. Most got sold post war and served the fishery industry. In 1939 the RN owned just one, the Strathcoe that was converted to carry 24 mines and a single 3 in gun.

    The WW I design looked different from WW II service one. The only gun position was the aft one. The boat was positioned at the stern and so the space for Depth charges was small.
    1n 1939 75 Strath class Trawlers got requisitioned.

    In service they had some differences, esp. with the DC at stern. I decided to do Benjamin Coleman that had the style of the Warlord model.

    Most got a single 3 pdr at bow and 2 – 4 .303 MG at the aft gun position. Others had a 6 pdr and a few (like the Benjamin) a 12 pdr. In mid/late war the MG got replaced by a 2 cm in most.

    So first conversion was the armament, scratch 12 pdr and MG. Aft mast area was different and a crane had to be added. Above bridge a command deck was to be added. And the fishing gallows at the sides.

    #153549
    PrimusPilus
    Participant

    Fantastic conversions!

    Absolutely stunning brushwork too.

    #153471
    Johnnytodd
    Participant

    Just finished this conversion from closed to open bed Isuzu Type 97:

    #153070
    Big Al
    Participant

    Nice, easy conversions. Looks great, IO! Thanks for that.

    #153033
    invisible officer
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    Like many others I bought Wargames Illustrated January 2019 and got the PT boats. Elco and Higgins.

    I want them for European waters and so the Higgins cried : “I want to become one of RN MTB 419-423.”
    These are the former USN PT 88,90,92, 93 and 94. Tranfer was in spring 1943. But 93 was soon converted into a target towing boat.

    They are from the 1942 built series. The main difference to the US configuration was that the aft torpedo tubes are not carried by RN. They had 4 DC there.
    The RN ones had the early pole antenna mast, not the later A type in kit.

    An easy conversion that you all can do. Just cut away the bases of the aft torpedo tubes and add the DC. Made from wire or plastic rod.

    The MTB served in Mediterranean


    Early US Higgins had a 20 mm aft. From 1943 a 40 mm was added and the 20 mm went to mid of boat. The tubes on US boats got exchanged to launching racks to save weight, the same reason the RN had to drop two tubes.

    #152819
    Stephen
    Participant

    I bought the rules over this weekend and I have examined that other than hull and speed almost submarines have cloned weaponry suite of 1×3″ gun, 1x20mm and 6 Torpedoes and this is incorrect. You don’t need a copy of Jane’s to identify this…just look at Wikipedia!

    The correct stats for the following are as follows…(rounding speed to nearest whole number)

    P.94
    T Class- should have 1×4″ Gun, 10 Torpedoes, and no 20mm AA Gun. Speed is probably correct

    P.95
    Type VII ( VIIc is the majority of production) speed is correct, as most could achieve 16.5kts on the surfaced (rounding up)
    VIIa and VIIb- has 1x88mm gun, 5 Torpedoes and 1x20mm
    VIIc- has 5 Torpedoes, 1x88mm gun and can replace the 20mm with a 37mm and should also have more hull points
    VIId- has 5 torpedoes, 1x88mm gun, and has 2x20mm with the same hull as VIIc
    VIIf- has 5 torpedoes, no 88mm gun, 1x37mm and 2x20mm and again increased hull over the VIIc

    Type XXI- has 6 torpedoes, no heavy deck gun, 2x20mm, speed should be 16kts (rounding up)

    P.96
    Marcello Class- 2×4″ guns, 4xHMG, 8 torpedoes and speed should be 17kts

    P.97
    Gato Class (early mod 1 & 2)- 1×3″ gun & with 1xHMG, 10 Torpedoes, replace 1x20mm with HMG and speed should be 21kts
    Gato Class (late mod 3 & 4)- 1×5″ gun with no HMG, 10 Torpedoes, 1x40mm, 1x20mm and speed should be 21kts

    P.98
    Shchuka Class- no 3″deck gun, 6 Torpedoes, 2x 45mm and speed should be 13kts

    As I can’t work out the calculation for the conversion of hull points and speed in terms of game PV the fully loaded points I could only estimate.

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