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Neely started the topic Rules Question: Brandenburgers' In Game Effect Requirements in the forum Bolt Action 3 years, 9 months ago
Dear Warlord Community,
I have another question: Does a unit of Brandenburgers’ HAVE to be on the board for their reserve effects to take place in the game? There are several iterations of Brandenburgers’ in the campaign books, but the rules are ambiguous in the requirements for Bradenburgers’ effects (should be FAQ’ed, hmmm Warlord and maybe…[Read more]
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Yes, but it isn’t that big a deal compared to the risk factor that I mentioned caused by ignoring the unit.
Remember the rule about only being allowed to contact the quarter that your unit starts its turn in. If the majority of the unit is in your flank quarter, it can only contact that quarter if it charges, regardless of how far away it is a…[Read more]
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East Norfolks replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Thanks Al – I agree with most of what you say except “all Unclear Target does is excuse you from shooting at the closest target”. This is not quite correct – it also gives you a -1 to hit modifier which can be important, especially in decisive moments.
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Look, as I have said before, all Unclear Target does is excuse you from shooting at the closest target. As you know a unit is forced to shoot at the nearest target. If that is considered an Unclear Target (and remember that your opponent and you can agree the condition) then you can target the next closest instead. However, there is a risk…[Read more]
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East Norfolks replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Thanks Al
I guess on the Unclear Targets I’m basically asking whether to assess “less than half” on frontage or area, as there may theoretically be some situations where the frontage is less than half but clearly the mass of the unit is within the FoF. However, I accept it is quite a pedantic point I’m making and I should probably just take the…[Read more]
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Quote “My only remaining question is on the Unclear Targets again. When a unit is partially in your FoF to the flank, what determines “less than half” ?
Finally, I’m not sure if the last comments are directed to me but I can assure you that “not reading the rules” is not my problem – I have read every line of these rules so many times it is ma…[Read more]
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East Norfolks replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Thanks Garry – all clear now I think.
Just to complete the discussion, attached is a pic of the “FoF” in EB. Implies, I believe, 18″ measured from any point on the formation frontage. How this is consistent with the same rules saying to measure from the leader base is beyond me.
Anyway, as mentioned I’m going to ignore all this and stick to t…[Read more]
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Garry Wills replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
My comment was certainly not directed at you, my first comment expressed my gratitude for your pointing out these differences. A lot of players only use the QRS and this leads to a lot of misunderstandings. The EB diagram you shared is clearly inconsistent with the core rules. I tend to interpret ‘less than half’ in terms of frontage. Columns are…[Read more]
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East Norfolks replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Thanks guys – really appreciate the input.
I agree with a lot of what you say but I do think that EB has “changed” the rules, at least in respect of range measurement. As per the diagram below from p41 of EB, it is clearly being measured from the corners of the Leader Base.
That said, this thread has really helped me refine my thoughts and I…[Read more]
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Cody replied to the topic Black Powder Player Finder (North America) in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Hello,
Cras from Houston, TX. Looking for Black Powder, and BP Epic ACW or Waterloo.
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Nat replied to the topic Using a pak 43 or worse a 12.8 cm Kanone 81/2 in bolt action? in the forum Bolt Action 3 years, 9 months ago
A chunk of it (faq) is based on feedback from tournaments…
The you get a number of them banning the 15 point tows as they are just a possible one move and then a very cheap order die doing nothing…..
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
That is certainly true! There are way too many who just watch video tutorials or learn by playing with someone who has done that. Misinterpretations are one thing, but not reading the rules and then declaring something as being the rules is something else.
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Garry Wills replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Definitely Alex, there are surprisingly few people who have actually read the rules.
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Fair enough, Garry! I just thought it worth adding.
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Garry Wills replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Big Al, ‘failed to mention’, I think you will find, I thought it was irrelevant to the discussion. All the best Garry
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Big Al replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
Further to what Garry has said, the centrepoint of the unit frontage is generally used if your units are based a little differently. If you have, say, six bases each consisting of four figures, you will probably find that you do not have a central figure. So, using the unit’s front centre makes more sense. If, like me, you have six bases c…[Read more]
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Garry Wills replied to the topic Main BP2 rulebook v Epic Battle rulebook in the forum Black Powder 3 years, 9 months ago
BP is pretty clear that the only range that matters is the distance between the leader model/centre of front to the closest visible base of the target. If this distance is in range, the whole of the firing unit and the whole of the target are in range. The rules explicitly states this. The best way to picture it, for muskets, is the 18 inch…[Read more]
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