East Norfolks


  • Thanks CTG – very helpful.  I wish the rules were clearer on these types of situations but your house rule does seem a sensible solution.

  • Many thanks for the reply CTG.

    Whilst I think your point makes a lot of common sense, I always struggle with this scenario as it is not what the main BP2 rules actually say.

    P45 states “a unit’s ability to see is always judged from the centre of the unit’s front rank” and the diagram at the bottom of P47 says the shot is only “not clear” whe…[Read more]

  • Hi all

    Is my reasoning for a clear shot correct (see attached pic)?

    1. Is there a clear line of sight from the centre of the red unit frontage to any point on the blue unit?  YES
    2. Is blue unit is in range?  YES
    3. Is the blue unit the nearest clear target? YES
    4. Can at least half of the blue unit be seen from the centre of the red unit’s fro…

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  • Thanks Garry.  That’s what I thought but then saw the attached section of the new Epic Battle rules showing Cavalry as an Attack Column.  Any ideas what this means?


  • Maybe a silly question but can cavalry form Attack Columns?


  • East Norfolks replied to the topic About Face in the forum Black Powder 4 months, 1 week ago

    Thanks both.  Sorry to keep coming up with these technical points but at least your discussion above shows I wasn’t being slow on the uptake and that it is, in fact, not completely clear!

    As per my initial post, I was also looking at the rule on page 36.  My thought now is that, strictly by the wording of the rules, you can reverse each base of t…[Read more]

  • Hello all – quick question on movement.

    The rules allow units to “About Face” 180 degrees (p36) but what is the movement deduction for this, if any?

    If I have a line facing due north but want to wheel it to face south-west (say an enemy unit suddenly appears coming round the flank and rear) , do you:

    (a) assume the whole line wheels 135 deg…[Read more]

  • Thanks Al – I agree with most of what you say except “all Unclear Target does is excuse you from shooting at the closest target”.  This is not quite correct – it also gives you a -1 to hit modifier which can be important, especially in decisive moments.

  • Thanks Al

    I guess on the Unclear Targets I’m basically asking whether to assess “less than half” on frontage or area, as there may theoretically be some situations where the frontage is less than half but clearly the mass of the unit is within the FoF.  However, I accept it is quite a pedantic point I’m making and I should probably just take the…[Read more]

  • Thanks Garry – all clear now I think.

    Just to complete the discussion, attached is a pic of the “FoF” in EB.  Implies, I believe, 18″ measured from any point on the formation frontage.  How this is consistent with the same rules saying to measure from the leader base is beyond me.

    Anyway, as mentioned I’m going to ignore all this and stick to t…[Read more]

  • Thanks guys – really appreciate the input.

    I agree with a lot of what you say but I do think that EB has “changed” the rules, at least in respect of range measurement.  As per the diagram below from p41 of EB, it is clearly being measured from the corners of the Leader Base.

    That said, this thread has really helped me refine my thoughts and I…[Read more]

  • Many thanks Garry – as always, very helpful.

    Also, I just realised that (somewhat ironically!) I was not precise enough in my own language.  When I referred to “Leader Model” I meant “Leader Base” i.e. one of the four bases of a standard unit in EB, not the actual leader mini figure itself.  Nevertheless the differences remain and EB still r…[Read more]

  • Hello all

    I’ve recently got a copy of the A5 Epic Battle (EB) rules and compared them to the main Black Powder 2 (BP2) rules that I already have and noticed a few differences that are really confusing me, as follows:

    Visibility.  The diagram on p39 of EB shows visibility being measured from any point on the frontage of the Leader model.  The dia…[Read more]

  • OK thanks – yes I think I will continue to use the Advance Rules for Generals, seems much more engaging way to play.

  • As always thanks Big Al

    Personally I think the rules for re-rolling could be a little clearer (especially for a relative newbie like me).  However, your explanation makes perfect sense and I shall follow accordingly.

    When you say “If you want to use the SR of the General, then it is he who must issue the order in the first place” I am assuming…[Read more]

  • Hello all

    A few questions on re-rolls:

    -When a general with a SR of 9 joins a brigade commander with a SR of 8, do you use 9 for the re-roll?

    -If you are re-rolling using a general with a SR of 9 and you are ordering a unit with the Reliable rule, would that make the re-roll order a 10?

    -If the general has joined a brigade commander for a…[Read more]

  • East Norfolks replied to the topic Large unit stats in the forum Black Powder 10 months ago

    Thanks all for your comments – appreciated. Will have to give this a bit of thought!

  • East Norfolks replied to the topic Large unit stats in the forum Black Powder 10 months ago

    Thanks Garry – I see your point.  To make it even more complicated, I’ve just noticed that on page 160 of the main rules in the scenario section, Guards units (although generic not specifically British) are listed as 7/3/3+/3 with special rules of Elite 4+ and reliable.

    I wish that, when the writers of the rules and supplements amend basic…[Read more]

  • East Norfolks replied to the topic Large unit stats in the forum Black Powder 10 months ago

    Thanks Big Al – this is helpful.  Yes, maybe you are right – just stick with the main rules.  Therefore:

    Foot Guards  = 8/4/3+/4 plus Reliable and Elite 3+  (I like the way this compares to the French Old Guard stats as well – very even)

    52nd/large battalion = 8/4/4+/4

    Standard battalion = 6/3/4+/3

    This seems about right.

    Good point on the…[Read more]

  • East Norfolks started the topic Large unit stats in the forum Black Powder 10 months ago

    Evening all

    Question on unit classification for anyone who knows how the BP2 rules and AT2 supplement interact.

    Should the British 1/52nd at Waterloo be considered a large unit (they had over 1,100 men)?  If so (I would have thought yes), what stats should it have for H2H/Shooting/Morale/Stamina?

    A standard light battalion is meant to be…[Read more]

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