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  • #150521
    Joe allwarden
    Participant

    Thanks everyone! That clears it up nicely! Cheers!

    #150523
    Cat Shot One
    Participant

    Thanks a lot for the FAQ!

    Andy, in the FAQ the term “Snap Shot” (even capitalized) appears two times. However, I can’t find it in the rules. Can you please shed some light on this please?

    #150524
    Cat Shot One
    Participant

    (I was also wondering how – from your game designer perspectice – the two shooting opportunities a plane can have per turn are [meant to be] different.)

    #150525
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    My understanding is that that snapshot is an opportunity shot: a consequence of the ennemy plane move ending in your firing arc when you’re about to start your own move.
    The standard shot is the pilot’s action which is provided by your own move giving you a shooting position.
    Opportunity Vs planned action.

    #150557
    Andy Chambers
    Participant

    ‘Snap shot’ is a shorthand way people have taken to refer to the shot you can take when a plane activates and before it moves, this being separate to the shot it can take as a Pilot Action at the end of its movement.

    Game design-wise t’s actually mainly in there for planes that get exceptionally well set-up in the previous turn (like being in a tailing position) to get two bites of the cherry for their shooting at their hapless prey. In general though it’s also an inducement not to end moves in a position under the enemies’ guns.

    #150580
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    Thanks to the faq sharing, I’m actually translating it in French and I’m a bit stuck with a couple of words.

    If I understand properly, “stem” and “peg” are both used to designate the same reference point which is the center of the base.

    Could anyone confirm or correct me?

    #150581
    Nat
    Participant

    yeah they are both used interchangeably when talking about the actual vertical part of the advantage base.

    #150596
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    Thanks a lot @Nat.

    So that’s lead to a new question (which unfortunately should have been raised too often to Mr Chambers) regarding tailing.

    From the pdf rulebook available on WG store the arrow should point at the rear arc while the FAQ states that it should be the center of the base (aka peg/stem/whatever).

    My question is: is the rulebook wrong so the FAQ entry is an errata entry more than a point clarification or am I missing something?

    I know that the question could sounds picky (and maybe it is) but I just want to avoid introducing more issue in our games than solving them.

    Once again, as a non English native things can easily be lost in translation.

    #150598
    Nat
    Participant

    I believe that Andy Chambers has had to answer that point several times both here on the forums and on FB so has put it into the FAQ.

    I feel its not so much an errata as a clarification on what is meant when the rulebook states the arrow must point directly at the rear arc

    #150599
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    Pointing at the fire arc grant more flexibility than pointing to the center of the base.

    I’m ok with both, it just requires to be more precise in the second case.

    Being a non-competitive player myself I found the first one more in phase with how I approach the game but making tailing a bit less easy to achieve will force player to involve a bit more in their actions.

    #150601
    Cat Shot One
    Participant

    K^2, if may I quote Andy from earlier in this thread
    (it’s a pitty there is no better structure in this forum and all rule questions end up in the same thread):

    September 10, 2018 at 12:53 pm #146433 Reply
    Andy Chambers
    Participant

    Yes you have it right – you need to line up the arrow on the attacking aircraft with the stem of defending aircraft with the attacker’s line of fire passing through the defender’s rear arc to count tailing.

    #150638
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    Thanks all for your feedbacks.

    @CatShotOne I should have checked it myself. I could blame the fact that I browse the forum from my smartphone but to be honest just forgot to do it.

    #150642
    Andy Chambers
    Participant

    It’s a fair point that new diagrams for tailing should be in errata as the current ones could be clearer for both this and firing arcs in general for shooting.

    #150922
    Koin-Koin
    Moderator

    I tried to summarize the tailing conditions graphically and end up with this (based on rulebook graphics).

    I hope it could be of any help.

    Ps: French version of the FAQ as been send to Eric from WG France for proofreading.

    #150949
    Mark Barker
    Participant

    Very nice …

    Tailing; Rear Arc Shot but not Tailing; Deflection Shot

    Already printed out and in the box !

    Mark Barker

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