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  • #165031
    Steeljackal
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    Good morning to all, I go to the point

    AIRBORNE
    rulebook – NCO SMG + 4 SMG = TOTAL 5 SMG
    Army of US – NCO SMG + 2 SMG = TOTAL 3 SMG

    REGULAR INFANTRY
    rulebook – NCO SMG + 1 SMG = TOTAL 2 SMG
    Army of US – NCO SMG = TOTAL 1 SMG

    Which team and related equipment should I consider?

    The difference is important, if I want to make an assault team it makes a big difference having 5 SMGs instead of 3

    #165066
    Greg S
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    The army book takes precedence. (see main rules P153).

    The rule book platoon tries to cover all bases with the Airborne/Ranger/Marines/veterans squad. The army book splits them into separate choices.

    #165081
    Stuart Harrison
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    As Greg says, the MRB has a single unit entry for each experience level (inexperienced, regular, veteran) which can be used to loosely represent any squad at that experience level – it isn’t particularly correct for any of them but allows you to get some minis on the table and try out the game.

    The armies of books break those entries up into specific types of squad (generic MRB veterans break up into rangers, engineers, paratroopers, glider troops, late war marines etc), and in some cases goes further to distinguish equipment and organisational changes through the war (ie: early war marines/late war marines).

    This is why even the MRB tells us the Armies of book entries take precedence – detailed vs “get you by” entries.

    #165121
    Steeljackal
    Participant

    Ok, all clear.
    Thanks

    #165775
    Highlander
    Participant

    We have found that it is important to determine — and announce — and reach agreement upon — which army lists you will be using. The MRB or an army book. Before a game begins.

    It is disconcerting to discover, mid-game, you are using the MRB and learn that your opponent is operating, in effect, with a different definition of what a unit and its capabilities might be. It is reasonable to understand that a player might not have all of the army books … and, by default, is using the MRB. Courtesy would indicate that the MRB provides the default list.

    We have had to deal with a player who routinely found various advantages in the army books which he sprang upon unknowing opponents who were using the MRB. Which led to heated arguments and long term anger and eventually, to the departure of said player.

    But it is fun to apply an army book to a scenario. It livens up planning for the game an introduces new wrinkles in the actual play.

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