French Light Infantry Colors for Drummer and voltigeurs

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  • #186884
    bolebg
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    Hi,

    Does anyone know the book or any resources where i can find color of musician uniform and color of epaulet/pompom of voltigeurs company per French light infantry regiment?

     

    Thanks,

    Bolebg

    #186886
    Nat
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    Osprey me-at-arms book146

    Napoleon’s light infantry

    – it alters between regiments really…

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    #186890
    bolebg
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    You are right. Missed it in text there is explanation for each light regiment voltigeurs epaulets and feathers. Thanks!

    But i do not see color of musician uniform per battalion? Any hint?

    #186892
    Nat
    Participant

    Well pg 7 says that the ‘heads of coloumn’ so the bands, sappers etc followed the same rules as the Line Infantry…

    #186903
    bolebg
    Participant

    But do you maybe know those rules? What should be color of the battalion drummer in light infantry regiment?|

     

    My plan would be to create Light infantry regiments but with proper color for drummer and voltages epaulets and feathers per regiment.

    #186906
    Nat
    Participant

    pg 18 of the line infantry book – governed by the whim of the colonel :p

    <snip> drummmer, fifers and cornets usually wore ordinary uniforms <snip> ordinary company distinctions, shako ornaments etc

    #186923
    bolebg
    Participant

    Hmm, I believe that uniform color of light infantry drummer (battalion) was different.

    In Osprey me-at-arms 146, Napoleon light Infantry, I saw even that drummer of central companies had  light blue / red uniform (plate E).

    It is the reason i am searching for combo drummer/volitgeur epaulet/feathers per regiment.

    #186930
    Nat
    Participant

    do you know what regiment(s) you’re wanting to paint?  As you might be able to find out more specifics online

    This site has all the 1815 uniforms of the 100 days (http://centjours. mont-saint-jean.com /unitesFR. php)

    #186931
    invisible officer
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    The problem is theory and reality. 17th frimaire AN XI an order came from Paris that the band musicians had to wear the same dress the drummers / hornists wore.

    April 1807,  August 1810, Sept. 1811. There are enough orders and material lists about reduction of the expensive add ons to fill a book. The colonels did not care and so the tête de colonne looked mostly like a circus band.  Worse, any new colonel normally changed it. So any source we have is just for that unit AND date.

    The battalion musicians mostly wore normal  soldier dress with added wings.

     

    Some elite companies used the bearskin, some not.

     

    Some of  the sappers wore another fantasy variation, others wore the band dress and ordinary soldier blue was most common.   (15th LI sapper in 1809 red jacket with blue vest and collar, grey trousers with thick red stripe. Black bearskin with red feather and bag.   Strange)

    #186937
    bolebg
    Participant

    i actually plan to make 2-3 regiments of French Light Infantry for Spain 1809-1812.

    So any hint about musician color and voltigeurs epaulets would be great.

    Have to check order of battles to see was 27th light regiments (where we have drummer in Osprey plate) present in Spain?

    #186938
    bolebg
    Participant

    if you have any data for French light regiments in Spain 1809-1812 it would be great,

    #186939
    invisible officer
    Participant

    Legeres in Spain:

    1 – 6

    8-10

    12

    15-18

    21

    23-25

    27 – 28

    31-32

     

    #186940
    bolebg
    Participant

    Thanks for list! very good way to avoid searching battle orders.

    Do you maybe have for them drummer color and voltigeur epaulets/feathers.

    What i found is following site with lot of resources.

    Online articles by Frédéric Berjaud (free.fr)

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