Perry-Victix, Perry-Victix, Perry-Victix???????

[Aradyon]

Well, I think the title says it all.

I already have some Victix troops and some Nepolionics from other places in my British army but I need to bulk up on line infantry in preperation of Black Powder.

Now I have bought Victix before and I liked them (even if the barrels where to big) and I have ordered the troops into units of 12 into sets of 3 each with a section commander. Now, I have heard that the Perry troops are better sculpted and was wondering whether:

a) Which is the better sculpt?

b) Would the perry box be able to give me an exact line company if I have all of my comapnies containing 3 groups of 10 Line Infantry, two flags, two drummers and two officers. Can I build that with one Perry box?

c) I am a high school student and the Dollar sucks in comparison to the pound, which would you say is the better value for money?

[General Lee]

the barrels too big? as far as I know, they are way too thin. and what an entousiastic title

[Aradyon]

Oops. Yes sorry about that. I am not sure what I was thinking. LOL, I think I meant to write 'not big enough.'

Still, Can you answer the questions?????

Also, just to add another question into the mix, are the riflemen who come in the box Green Jackets or Furgesons?

[General Lee]

Arcadyon said:

Oops. Yes sorry about that. I am not sure what I was thinking. LOL, I think I meant to write 'not big enough.'

Still, Can you answer the questions?????

Also, just to add another question into the mix, are the riflemen who come in the box Green Jackets or Furgesons?

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I'll try:

A) IMO The Perries have better sculpts (which shouldn't be all that surprising, it's the Perries) The Victrix are nice sculpts as well, but too cartoony for my taste. And of course the muskets as already mentioned are a big NO NO. Also, the Victrix mini's have far more poses. Now this can both be an advantage or a disadvantage, it's just a matter of opinion. With the Perries, you know you can create a nice looking fireing line with the contents in the box. With the Victrix, you have marching and standing poses so I'm not entirely sure how that works out.

B) I honoustly don't know

C) Perries: 40 mini's for 15 pounds, that's about 23 Euro's I should think

Victrix: 52 mini's for 20 pounds, about 30 euro's

you do the math (I suck at it)

[Publius Cornelius Scipio]

Both are good buys and mix well with each other. Theres going to be no harm in you getting a box of perrys to see how you like them in the flesh. If you prefer the Victrix then no major loss you've still got 40 odd extra troops.

[Clone of Undave]

I've got two boxes of Victric and one of Perry's and I'm mixing and matching them in units and to be honest you can't really tell the difference on the tabletop. The Perry's have slightly wider backpacks but that's about all you can see unless you actually pick the minis up and start scrutinising them. I was chatting to Michael Perry at Salute and he was saying that the Victrix shakos were apparently a little tall but we ended up getting a pack of Victrix French out that they'd swapped with them to compare and there was virtually no difference.

To be perfectly honest I think I prefer the Perry's over the Victrix, but I like a little bit of variation in my units so I'm glad I've got both sets. The two sets also compliment each other quite nicely, the Perry's only have one drummer whereas the Victrix have spares. The Victrix don't quite have enough shakoed heads to go round but the again the Perry's have spares.

If I end up getting any more I think I'll go on a one for one basis, not that I need any more infantry at the moment. I do wonder how compatible the horses are going to be, it would be nice to be able to mix and match the cavalry.

[Aradyon]

Thanks a lot guys, I think I will be getting some Perry's.

Does anyone know what type of riflemen they are, Greenies or Furgies?

[Suetonius Paullinus]

Well, I do like both equally.

Funnily enough I like the Victrix muskets better than the rather flimsy looking Perry muskets, the good old Brown Bess was quite a beast after all.

Also I do like the pose of the Perry French much better than the British firing line. Oh, and the sergeant's sash is the wrong way round.

On the other hand are the backpacks more accurate than Vicrix's.

With the Victrix British I fancy the firing position even less and you definitely need at least two packs to get a good looking unit unless you are planning to play skirmishes only. The backpacks are way too small and some of the very nicely sculpted faces have sideburns far too exagerated.

They don't offer any Rifles yet but there are seperate heads for a light company available (lovely sculpts by Paul Hicks!)

I absolutely love the Victrix French -same as the Perry's. In both cases, I hate to say, the French are the better minis.

Since the Perrys seem to focus more on the Waterloo campain I will use their British accordingly, having their magnificent 1815 French as adversaries.

My Victrix British and French I will use therefore for Peninsular scenarios.

So for me it is both companies winning!

Regarding the Rifles I do not exactly know what you mean but they look like this:

I am looking forward to all their new releases..

Cheers

S.P.

[Aradyon]

Thank you very much for that, it was very useful information.

When I asked about the Riflemen, I will explain.

There where two prodominant classes of riflemen during the period in the British Army. This derived from two different firearms and different roles. The first is the famous Green Jacket Riflemen which is what you have there. These troops specialised in skirmishing and carried the Baker Rifle. The second was the Furgison Riflemen who served as elite infantry but who formed into firing lines and acted as line troops occasionally as well as fighting in skirmish order. They wore red coats like the standard LI but had a more accurate and longer ranged firearm which allowed them to beat the hind legs of opposing LI before they even got into range. Obviously, bright red and skirmishing don't mix too well.

[Suetonius Paullinus]

I see what you mean now.

So basically this would be the difference between a light company within a regiment and one of the proper Rifle regiments (60th, 95th), right?

'Green Jacket' was later obviously a synonym for the Rifles but I wasn't aware of the term 'Furgisons'.

Cheers

S.P.