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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Correus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:53 pm

I'm checking in!!! Safe and sound here - it was a near run thing..... friends and neighbors around us were not so lucky. The 'big one' went right by us - it was nearly a mile wide. We have friends who live in the area of total destruction, but thankfully they are okay. Tornadoes can be funny things. This is one of many where we have had close calls and friends/family who's houses were spared but the neighbor next door were swept away.

It would have been even worse this time because we were in the middle of our local city festival with lots of people from out of town. People were scrambling to local shelters.

Last count there were 98 tornadoes in Kansas that night. It's one thing if it hits during daylight, but at night it's worse - you just can't see where it's coming from.

Cubster wrote:I'd have already evacuated myself some time ago, which wouldn't have been pleasant for those sharing the shelter with me. Make like a gopher and enjoy re-emerging to a brave new world.


This is Kansas - standing outside looking for and/or watching a tornado is our State sport. People pay big money to come here and chase them (especially from Japan). We typically go tornado chasing with SWMBO's father but couldn't this time due to the festival - we're on the board. This time though, the F-n-L was on the wrong side of the storm and we lost contact for a few hours.

The wife and I have been so close to one of these puppies that we held onto a pole and her hair was getting sucked up.

Where we live tornadoes tend to get close, but this is the first one that they were expecting to flatten us. In the 50s there was a town, about 9 miles from us, that was wiped off the face of the earth, and then there was the Greensburg KS tornado of '07 that wiped that town out as well - we were told this was a 'Greensburg' tornado and was heading straight for us and Wichita. Like I said, we lucked out. The Wichita metro area kindda lucked out - it bounced around destroying pockets. It could have stayed on the ground. if it did this it would have amount to several hundred dead and missing. Right now - not including the aircraft plants and the Air Base, the damage is over $240 million. The news groups are still not allowed to get on the Air Base, however, the evacuated aircraft are on their way back to the nest.

We are staying in our area for now because the authorities are asking people to stay away. If it wasn't for that we would be helping dig out the rubble. I'm certified in NIMS (National Indecent Management System) and am getting ready for CERT training (Community Emergency Response Teams). A few years back I was the liaison person for our city when dealing with FEMA and the DHS - so, we both have a lot of training in this area - but your never 'ready' when it gets this close.

What is 'interesting' is the fact that the storms are getting worse and more frequent. It's to the point that the warning system is being re-done. Instead of just saying "there is a tornado reported on the ground and warning sirens are going off" we are now hearing "this is a verified tornado emergency - this is a non life sustaining event if above ground".

I do think the media helped to create a panic that was above and beyond what was necessary. They really caused a problem for us here. They were making it sound that towns in the path of the main one (the one that came by us) was leveling each town it came in contact with. The reality is is that it was bouncing. It did not stay on the ground the whole time. It was going over, and skirting these towns - ours included. Instead - the news was saying "the monster tornado (yes - they were saying monster tornado) has just hit Clearwater (or Conway Springs or Haysville, etc). It just really freaked out, and panicked a lot of people. What's bad is that Haysville (about 5 miles from us) was virtually wiped out about 10 years ago and they said what they did.

Anyway - we are still here....and tornado season has just begun....
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Correus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:01 pm

I did forget to mention...we have adopted an orphan that was created by the storm....a baby bird that is 'maybe' four days old. Uglier than sin, but it sure has an appetite!!

For those of you interested...take a look at this time line:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/midwest-storms-tornadoes-severe-storms-threaten-country-midsection-194415173.html

The info isn't tho most accurate but it's the only one I've found.

Power is starting to come on, but huge areas are still without. Communications networks are still iffy in areas as well. We didn't get reliable cell/internet until last night.

I feel bad for not getting on here last night, but the moment I had had the chance to just sit and rest I fell asleep and didn't get up again until about two hours ago.
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Correus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:09 pm

Found a much better timeline!!

http://stormchasermovies.com/april-14th-2012-severe-weather-outbreak-tornado-nebraska-kansas-oklahoma/

Note these highlights:

1115PM EST – National Weather Service Wichita Kansas experiencing power failure
1101PM EST- National Weather Service Office in Wichita Kansas has suspended operations, Topeka office taking over. Wichita employees seeking shelter.
1058PM EST – Clearwater Kansas is about to be hit by a mile wide tornado
1054PM EST – Miranda Lambart Concert is still going on at the Intrust Arena in Wichita Kansas Despite Tornado Warning


The concert seems absurd, but the news service was honest with the people - there was no place to go that could hold 15,000 people and they would be safer where they were.

The NWSO in Wichita is a military grade bunker - so them handing over operations and seeking shelter is a big deal.

The mile wide tornado is the one that came by us - it was within a mile or two.
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Sirius » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:17 pm

Glad you and yours are OK...

I figured your communications and power could well have taken a knock, and if you were in the teeth of things replying to a wargaming forum would be a (very) low priority....but was still anxious that we had heard nothing from you. So thanks for letting us know.

Be safe.
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby grant » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:39 pm

We get tornadoes in central Alberta as well, but nothing like that. Pretty rare. I think this is going to be a bad season. Ours won't be until much later. The worst one we had took out a resort area about 20 minutes east of my house, that was just before I moved here.

Anyway, good to hear you are ok and it wasn't as bad as the media (typically) made it out to be!
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Correus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:47 pm

@Sirius - you are spot on about communications...

grant wrote:I think this is going to be a bad season. Ours won't be until much later.


I think you are right - all the earmarks are there - this is going to be a bad season.

With just a few exceptions (totaling maybe four years worth of time) I've lived here all my life. The wife has lived here about the same amount. This is the first time she was so freaked out she was scrambling around gathering up financial info, birth/marriage certificates, drugs, etc and stashing them in bags and storing them in the basement.

I was FINALLY able to get it through her head that this is the reason EVERYONE should have a BOB or 72HoB, or an INCH!!! Now she understands.
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Suetonius Paullinus » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:07 pm

Glad to hear your still in one piece!

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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Big Al » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:16 pm

Great to hear you're all safe and well. :D

I know what you mean about the media. In 2010, over here, you'd have thought it was the coming of the next Ice Age, but last year we had one day of light snow. Then they come on telling us that there's going to be a real fuel shortage because they got wind that petrol tanker drivers might go on strike. Only might, though, so let's make news and cause panic and an actual fuel shortage by telling everyone to stock up. Guess what? No drivers' strike! The media is just full of complete Doll's Heads. :evil:
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby Vogless » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:09 pm

Glad to hear you're OK, C!

Sorry to hear there was that much damage.

Thinking they're ALL going to be bad seasons from here on if the scientists are right. We haven't had anything really severe near Chicago lately, but extended 85 degrees in March doesn't feel right. Or good.
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Re: Tornadoes

Postby paulsmodellingworkshop » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:33 pm

Glad to have you back on board Correus :) I was worried enough to pray to the SunGod for ya' ;)

Good luck with the new addition - do you know what species of bird it is? not a parus? :P
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