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Dipping Perry AWI

Postby Dave001776 » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:17 pm

Hello,
Just wondering if anyone has had any joy dipping the Perry AWI figures, I have a load that I want to have a go at, just wondering if the very slight detail and lots of whites would be a problem ?
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby grant » Sat Sep 17, 2011 3:49 am

Dave001776 wrote:Hello,
Just wondering if anyone has had any joy dipping the Perry AWI figures, I have a load that I want to have a go at, just wondering if the very slight detail and lots of whites would be a problem ?


I haven't done AWI, but have used Army Painter on Perry French Napoleonics. Lots of white, no problems. I brush it on, and check on it for the first hour or so to remove any blobs or extra accumulation that I am not digging. Works really well!

I did also do some British Victrix, Highlanders, and the Army Painter was fine over red and white - although not as much white on those minis.

Good luck, and make sure you brush it on, and remove the excess - I used a clean brush and kept rinsing the brush in turps and wiping it dry.

Be sure to show pics when done!
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby Colonel White » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:09 am

I have used with success over very light colours (Nap Brits) the light version of the Dip. I find it also useful for Ancients that wore mainly light coloured robes. However as Grant as stated on light clothes the dip needs to be "controlled" by removing any excess and please brush it on !I honestly wished that they would remove the word"dip" from the title as all the best results ,mine amongst many others have been achieved by brushing the dip on.

Another added bonus of brushing it on is that the dip lasts much longer as there is much less waste. ;)
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby BigMike » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:14 am

Colonel White wrote:I have used with success over very light colours (Nap Brits) the light version of the Dip. I find it also useful for Ancients that wore mainly light coloured robes. However as Grant as stated on light clothes the dip needs to be "controlled" by removing any excess and please brush it on !I honestly wished that they would remove the word"dip" from the title as all the best results ,mine amongst many others have been achieved by brushing the dip on.

Another added bonus of brushing it on is that the dip lasts much longer as there is much less waste. ;)


totally agree!
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby grant » Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:25 pm

Colonel White wrote:
Another added bonus of brushing it on is that the dip lasts much longer as there is much less waste. ;)


That was the main reason I used the brush at first - the stuff was too expensive to see my flinging away blobs of money as I dipped proper.

I have personally used the mid and dark tones. Mostly I use the darkest tone as it has the best contrast/darkest shade - but you really do need to watch for blobbing up!
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby Dave001776 » Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:31 pm

Thanks for the input, I have done a couple of the mounted British officers, the results are pretty good, I thought it made the red coats ( Foundry British Red Coat paint ) a bit dull after the varnish so I drybrushed them over in the red, not bad, will try some rank and file next !!
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby BigMike » Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:09 pm

Can you post some piccy's Dave? -I for one would love to see them!
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby grant » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:18 am

Dave001776 wrote:Thanks for the input, I have done a couple of the mounted British officers, the results are pretty good, I thought it made the red coats ( Foundry British Red Coat paint ) a bit dull after the varnish so I drybrushed them over in the red, not bad, will try some rank and file next !!


I have highlighted over some AP dip jobs. This guy http://djokergaming.wordpress.com/ does great work with the AP dip as a base wash and then goes crazy with highlighting.
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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby DJoker » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:37 pm

Thanks Grant.

I've been doing quite a bit with Army Painter, especially on my ECW and some of my Napoleonics, and have been having some pretty decent results. I generally stick to the Strong Tone, but I use the lighter Soft Tone for whites. I am about to start experimenting with the Dark Tone on some Prussians to get some definition in those dark blues. Because I brush it on, I don't have any problem with using two tones on the same figure if need be...that's how I do my French.

The important part is the brushing. I don't even use the word "dip". No dipping done at all. It's all done as a light glaze, brushing against the relief of the miniature. After it dries, I usually give it a light, fast spray of matte varnish before highlighting, just because the shininess make it hard for me to see details. Depending on the figure and the color, I might do zero highlights or multiple highlights of lighter and lighter colors. It's all a matter of what you think looks "right".

Though the AP is a little faster in brush time, I do it more because I really like the way the figures look. It gives an army a nice, high contrast, almost sepia tone that I think looks fantastic on a game table. So it's much more than just a time saver. I think of it as a technique and style in and of itself, just like doing 3 layer painting or using washes. It's just one tool to get the result I'm looking for. I think Army Painter is just fantastic stuff.

On my website http://djokergaming.wordpress.com are some Napoleonics and some ECW figures, mostly Perry Miniatures, Renegade, and Warlord, done with AP. Here's some Warlord ECW stuff I've done with AP and highlights-

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I'm far from any sort of expert though. I started learning about it from David at http://saxondog.blogspot.com/. He is truly doing amazing work with Army Painter

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Re: Dipping Perry AWI

Postby BigMike » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:55 pm

Super stuff btw - i like your firelocks a lot!
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