undercoat and Army painter

[grecian1959]

Guys i'm wondering how white or black undercoats have worked using army painter dip after

[Centurio Marcus T]

Gday          With army painter i would use a white undercoat and lighter colours than normal to make the army painter work.You really have to persevere and experiment to get the right colours and it can be a little frustrating to start with,but once you get it right the end result can be very good.I use the strong tone which i brush on with a wide flat brush and then wipe away any excess to leave a nice shadowed effect. I leave the models to dry for at least  24 hours then apply a good matt varnish such as Testors dullcote or the army painter anti shine matt varnish.Ihave been using the army painter varnish which is quite good but Testors is better if you can get a hold of it.Hope this helps you                      Cheers Marcus T

[Vanth]

It depends on the colour that is going to be dominant on the miniature. I mostly use a grey car primer, but I would use white if most of the mini is going to be white. I have recently started using the Army Painter coloured primers and they do save a lot of time...

[Colonel White]

Black Primer is a no no if using the Army Painter Dip Method. It will make the figures far too dark.Rule of thumb for Army Painter shader is bright undercoat (white or Grey) and lighter  colours for basecoating.For example on a model where you would normally use Citadel Regal Blue, use Enchanted Blue instead.As somebody previously posted experimentation is required.