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Postby Vogless » Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:50 am

Anyone have a suggestion for some good books for a beginner on the A/Z War?
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Re: Books?

Postby grant » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:04 am

Vogless wrote:Anyone have a suggestion for some good books for a beginner on the A/Z War?


There's three books that you simply have to own. You will not be disappointed!

1. Zulu Rising by Ian Knight - a simply fantastic backgrounder to the causes of the Anglo-Zulu War, and then the ensuing disaster of iSlandlwana and the epic victory at Rorke's Drift

2. Like Wolves on the Fold by LCol Mike Snook - a terrific in depth analysis of Rorke's Drift, immensely readable, by a serving officer of the regiment that today perpetuates the 24th Regiment. This guy is the business!

3. How Can Man Die Better: The Secrets of Isandlwana Revealed by LCol Mike Snook - title says it all, again another brilliant piece of military history writing.

These are the books that great stories of the Anglo-Zulu War are made of! All three are in current print, in paperback, so are affordable and are very much available. They are also very current in scope, which is nice.
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Postby Cubster » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:59 am

Anything by Ian Knight or Mike Snook will see you alright.

I'd personally avoid anything by Saul David because he's very much a 'History Channel' type historian.
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Postby Invisible officer » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:45 pm

Get as many books as you can, read them and form your own judgement. Most important: Distinguish between source and deduction.

There is no ultimate book about the Zulu war. Many make superb reading and convince you until you read the next one with a different view.

How can men die better is one of these. Brilliant writing but Snook tell you what he think it happened just because that would be the way he would do it. Deduction, not source. Old mistake by serving men writing history. Worse if writing 100 years later, ignoring different training and thinking structures. Well, he is an officer from a regiment that can trace his history to the 24th. So that certain RE officer did everything wrong and ..... . May he he is right and that is the true story. But..... 8-)

Not intending to start a discussinon about that certain book, just showing that no Zulu war book is undisputed.

Again, read, read, read. But be carefull with believing.
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Postby Sirius » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:27 pm

I am surprised no-one has mentioned Washing of the Spears by Morris?
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Postby Cubster » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:11 pm

Sirius wrote:I am surprised no-one has mentioned Washing of the Spears by Morris?


It's kind of a cornerstone but outdated and much of his 'research' has been shown to be questionable at best. I've got the book and do value it, but in truth as an intro it's a bit of a tome!
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Postby Suetonius Paullinus » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:59 pm

Anything by Mike Snook. Terrific reading!
Not a huge fan of Knight and Saul myself but a lot of people seem to enjoy them.
Glad I picked their books cheaply from Amazon market place..

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Postby Vogless » Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:37 pm

Thanks, guys!

I'll take a look.
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Re: Books?

Postby HobbitMiles » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:26 am

First up I'll say I'm not an expert on the AZW, but I did pick up "The Illustrated Guide to the Anglo-Zulu War" recently. Now, whilst I would usually run a mile from anything billed as an "Illustrated Guide", this contains detailed maps of all of the actions and encampments/fortifications, at least some of which appear to be based on archeaological surveys of the sites, and detailed orders of battle. I can't vouch for its accuracy as I have little else to compare it to, but to my eye it looks very useful as a companion to other more general accounts.

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Postby grant » Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:47 pm

That is indeed a fine collection of smilies.
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