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Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby SteveMorgan » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:38 pm

Oh, and stop by and chat at the Salute stand :)

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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby westwaller » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:40 pm

Mikeland said:
I can't remember where I read it.... Back to the books.


p.43 Brasseys History of Uniforms, among others, it is in both the Hawthornewaite book and Peachey/Prince's: Flags and Colours... too I believe. Saves you looking now :)
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby Chilledenuff » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:12 pm

SteveMorgan wrote:Oh, and stop by and chat at the Salute stand :)

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I'll be doing that anyways! :lol: I've a rulebook to collect which you kindly offered to sign!
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby mikeland » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:16 pm

westwaller wrote:Mikeland said:
I can't remember where I read it.... Back to the books.


p.43 Brasseys History of Uniforms, among others, it is in both the Hawthornewaite book and Peachey/Prince's: Flags and Colours... too I believe. Saves you looking now :)



Cheers, it will have been Hawthornewaite book or Flags and Colours I imagine. Might even allude to it in the osprey campaign book.
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby Chilledenuff » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:29 pm

In case anyone is interested, I found this website to be useful... a bit of a pain to read (textfile!) but very useful:

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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby grant » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:34 pm

Chilledenuff wrote:In case anyone is interested, I found this website to be useful... a bit of a pain to read (textfile!) but very useful:

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Brilliant link, thanks for that!
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby hawkinspikeman » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:24 pm

on the 15th of july 1643 "all common soliders then at oxford were new apparrelled ,some in red ,coates ,breeches ,moonteers,&some all in blew," it apperar that most of the regiments raised by hopton received the blew , and that duttons regiment received red .however whilst in reading in the winter of 1643/44 after theses coates had worn out and they received new white coats ,which we know they wore after the regiment was taken over by stephen hawkins and be came stephen hawkins regiment of foote , as this is documented in writings from the time .
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby Correus » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:08 pm

Chilledenuff wrote:In case anyone is interested, I found this website to be useful... a bit of a pain to read (textfile!) but very useful:

link


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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby grant » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:33 am

SteveMorgan wrote:@Chilledenuff. Getting that lot on a tabletop would be impressive indeed :)
One of the things I started looking into when writing the Pike & Shotte book was a coat/colours guide. We managed to get bunch in the book, but I have collected a huge (and ever expanding) list of infantry and cavalry regiment details (I really do need to get a life) by trawling through my book collections and also go to local libraries etc.
I think I can fill a few gaps....not the cavalry as the explanations on the colours would take forever, but the foot are pretty straightforward.

Earl Rivers Black is based on the colours given by the Sealed Knot....this was not based on hard facts, but conjecture. It has now become the default colour in the absence of any evidence, so I'd go with that :) Following the same logic, the colours are a black field (no devices listed, so colonels colour and lt.colonels colour are plain black and black with St.George cross canton respectively)

The other gaps in the foot regiments I have to hand right now are....

Jacob Astley's - colours: Blue Field, White Cinquefoil devices
Lord Molyneux's: Red Coats. Colours; Blue Field, Gold Cross devices (again SK)
John Owen's: colours; Red and white Gyonnery
Sir Edward Fitton's: Colours; Blue Field, White Wavy Pile devices
Charles Lloyd: Red Coats
Sir Edward Stradling: Colours; Blue Field, White Cinquefoils
Charles Gerrard's: Colours; Blue & Yellow Gyonnery + Gold wreath devices
Lewis Dyve's: Blue Coats; Colours: Yellow Field, Red ball devices

Hope this helps

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Maybe you could convince Paul to let you put a place on the website with colour guides, banner suggestions, etc.? Great stuff - now I am REALLY looking forward to the book if it includes colours!
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Re: Mustering the army of Oxford(ish)

Postby Corbeau » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:29 am

Great list, any units "traditionally" considered to be black I generally paint in a slightly darker hue of blue - a comprimise between aesthetics and plausablity :)
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