A couple of warnings and suggestions

[hithero]

I received my Romans today and think that the content could have been a bit better in so much as their should have been enough pilum arms to arm the whole box with or even better have the hands open handed and enough swords and spears to go round to field your whole cohort the same.

Just to warn you the the plastic is extremely brittle. As I did not have enough pilum armed troops I decided to weapon swop with the swords which I have done countless times with citadel plastics. Not wanting to drill away practically the whole hand I decided to do what I normally do and drill the hole slightly smaller and stretch the opening as I insert the pilum; this didn't happen with my first Roman as the plastic did not give but snapped the fingers instead without warning.

I was expecting the transfers to have a clear background but unfortunately they are red which now forces me and my 5 friends to have pretty much the same colour scheme for all our armies. Was there a reason to have a background colour?

[Phil]

Personally, I find the Citadel plastic too soft and 'soapy' in texture - I fid it hard to 'carve' or scrape neatly with a scalpel, and prefer the slightly harder plastic of the WG figures.

As for the box content, well, it is the first set they've done, and as such has, I think, been a learning experience - I have a strong suspicion that the next box of plastics (Celts?) will be streets ahead of this one... I can hardly wait!

Just my opinion, worth what it cost you, or a little less!

Phil

[Noble]

hithero said:

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I was expecting the transfers to have a clear background but unfortunately they are red which now forces me and my 5 friends to have pretty much the same colour scheme for all our armies. Was there a reason to have a background colour?

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That is an artifact with LBM Transfers - something that irritates me enormously, as it somewhat fixes ones choice to that specific colour which seldomly is the tone I'd like to choose.

I'm not sure why people are so fond of LBM transfers, but maybe there's a trick I'm not aware of…

[Paul @ Warlord Games]

hithero said:

I received my Romans today and think that the content could have been a bit better in so much as their should have been enough pilum arms to arm the whole box with or even better have the hands open handed and enough swords and spears to go round to field your whole cohort the same.

Just to warn you the the plastic is extremely brittle. As I did not have enough pilum armed troops I decided to weapon swop with the swords which I have done countless times with citadel plastics. Not wanting to drill away practically the whole hand I decided to do what I normally do and drill the hole slightly smaller and stretch the opening as I insert the pilum; this didn't happen with my first Roman as the plastic did not give but snapped the fingers instead without warning.

I was expecting the transfers to have a clear background but unfortunately they are red which now forces me and my 5 friends to have pretty much the same colour scheme for all our armies. Was there a reason to have a background colour?

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Hi Hithero,

We wanted to give players the option to make their units the way they wanted so in the box you get both weapon types. If you want a couple of units that are all one wepon type that's dead easy - buy two boxes and make one with pilum and the other with gladius. Works a treat.

Not sure what's happening with your brittle plastic as we use the same stuff as GW...

On the transfers the most popular colour for Roman shields is red. We looksed at designs with a clear background but decided to go with the majority and give sheild designs that marched the box art.

The good news if that Little Big Men Studios have produced a set of their great transfer sheets sized to our shields. This gives you not only different designs but also different colours. We'll be adding more options to this range later so if there's something specific you want let us know and we'll look into it.

The first 6 sheets are up on our store now: http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/legionary-transfers-29-c.asp

For future sets we are changing the way we do our transfer sheets - more on that soon!

Cheers,

Paul

[hithero]

Hi Paul, the plastic is definately harder than the GW plastics as Phil says, its a lot easier to scrape clean - not that there is much to do of course :) They seem to be more like plastic kit plastic.

I think I will pass on the alternative shield transfers thanks, £8 is rather expensive.

[Paul @ Warlord Games]

Hi Hithero,

I'll look into the plastic thing...

Cheers,

Paul

[Phil]

Please don't change it, if it turns out to be different from the Citadel stuff...

It's flexible enough that pila (for example) still seem to be fairly robust, but is definitely slightly harder, so is easier to work accurately.

Phil

[generulpoleaxe]

i agree, whatever the mix is paul, keep it mate.

and that's coming from someone who prefers metals!

[hithero]

The plastic is fine by me too; once I found that it was more brittle the other weapon swops were no problem, I was just warning others to be extra careful with their conversions to save breakages.

[Guest]

I got my cohort today and I'm really happy with how they turned out. Can't say I noticed any difference to GW's plastic so far.

The only point of slight dis-satisfaction is the transfers. Not that it is badly done but why is the design not the generic one if you now have more specific transfers in the online shop? LECV VIC ??? Why not LECVI like it indeed is in the artwork? The 5th isn't even a 'British' Legion…aarrghh (and btw it's LECV ALAUDAE or MACEDONICA not VIC(TRIX).

And, sorry, £4.00 for 15 transfers???? That is 8 quid per box that is 40(!) quid for my cohort. No way, I'd rather do freehands and get me 3 more boxes of legionaries. PLEASE consider adjusting the price, all these freehands are gonna make me paint myself into oblivion.

All in all:

9.5 out of 10 I'd say.

A very good result for a starters.

Cheers

S.P.