Large units

[marshalney2000]

Enjoying reading the rules but am confused as to when a unit is a large unit. A normal unit is 24 to 30 from memory while a large unit has 36 figures. What is a 32 figure unit? I suspect normal size but wanted to clarify.

John

[Paul @ Warlord Games]

Hi John,

Funnily enough I asked Rick the same question when we started working on the book production. I'm sure he won't mind me paraphrasing his reply:

The unit sizes are rough proportions - standard = 1, large 1.5, small ½, tiny ¼ - and then the numbers are rounded down (usually) to allow for ranks (i.e. 23 and 15 are not ideal because you can’t arrange the models into formations easily).

The variation within a unit is usually ‘smallest size’ + 25% rounding = ‘largest’ - eg 16-20

The standard (24-30) can be adjusted as you see fit - so if you want your standard unit to be 16 or 20 models that’s fine you just need to adjust the proportions for other sizes using the stated values as a guide. E.g.

Standard 16 or 20 proportion 1

Large 24 or 30 proportion 1.5

Small 8 or 10 proportion .5 and reduced a tad

Tiny 4 or 5 about .25 - but never more than 5 - e.g. scouting party.

It’s the proportions that determine whether units are standard/large/etc rather than the actual numbers. Small/tiny units were reduced because it makes it easier to tell them apart from undersize standard units.

The reason there’s a gap between each size is so that you can see whether a unit is standard/large/small or tiny - it should be obvious - but it’s perfectly OK to have in-between sizes so long as you make it clear what size they are supposed to be.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Paul

[paulsmodellingworkshop]

That's very helpful for me as well - thanks Paul.

One question.....if my standard infantry units are 24 and large 36, can I still mount my riflemen on pennies and call them a small/tiny units of 12/6 or should they be on the same bases as the main units?

aargh...second question, I have mounted some units on 40x40mm bases with 4 figures and some units on 60mmx40mm (6 figures) is it ok to have both base sizes?

cheers!

[Guest]

Hi Paul. yes the basing will be just fine.

The Very LAST thing to worry about in BP is base sizing.

Cheers john s

[Paul @ Warlord Games]

Stallardicus said:

The Very LAST thing to worry about in BP is base sizing.

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The first is which curry to order while the Umpire sets the game up...

Cheers,

Paul

[Aradyon]

Yeah, at the moment, I am using 36 as my standard unit. I don't know if this works. Is it designed to work at that size, or ought I readjust. Our group has time, because the book takes a while to get to NZ.

[Guest]

Most of Alan Perry's Napoleonics are 36 as standard I think - 6 bases of 6 mounted to a 15mm frontage per man (bases 45mm v 40mm 3 men by 2... although older units based any old how but to the same frontage so they look the same.... they just take forever to move because of singles and double mounted figures).

If you're based to 20mm per man then the only thing I'd say is your units are pretty long (360mm in 2 ranks) so I assume your table is proportionate - but 36 is certainly a workable size - a good size in fact as it just naturallly breaks down into lines (18x2 men), attack columns (9x4 men) and march columns (3x12 men).

But as John says - the basing is the last thing to worry about - the whole game was designed to accomadate armies based to different standards with units of different sizes.

Rick

[Aradyon]

Cheers rick, sounds great.

Also, I mounted my units on 15mm frontage, on 15x20 bases. So 3 per base. May take a while to move, but it shouldn't be too bad.

Thanks again.