grecian1959 wrote:Ady i would also recommend
http://napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyk ... ssacks.htm
If Napoleon had had Cossacks in his army
he'd have been Emperor of China long ago."
- Cossack officer to Caulaincourt in 1812
it throws up some points of interest eg; cossack lance was 1.5 feet longer than polish etc,their use of firepower for noise mainly --tactics etc etc.
looking a the regular/irregular variations both yourself and Alan are trying out - i'd generally agree and will try out myself.definitely the Kalmucks ,Bashkirs etc should be warband with the others regular and skrmish.I play on a 9x5 table and use 12 fig cav units so find when deployed in 2x6 ranks space isnt such an issue but 1x12 leads to no space particularily for cossacks to outflank , since you cant charge a flank if starting in a frontal arc .I think cavalry should be allowed in some sort of battle column too, to reflect the closer formations used esp if terrain or quality of troopers restricted fully shaken out deployments eg; Murats deployments at Liebertolkwitz 1813. Both of you say they can charge only shaken or disordered opponents isnt that the general rule for cavalry v Infantry in BP anyway,or are you extending it to enemy cavalry/artillery?
The Germans used new words in their prayer, "Save us Lord, from Cossacks".
I still feel they should have a FEAR,LOOT and BOOTY special rule when in the rear of the enemy. Maybe a -1 to their opponent morale saves when in charge range.While the cossacks themselves could suffer an additional -1 to command rolls when in the vicinity to enemy baggage or any unoccupied buildings/built up areas as they MAY want to go loot and check out the local bootylicious talent
which brings me to one final thought based on games played if you use unreliable for infantry eg; Landwehr but game with all 8 rated generals(not using any personal characterisrics as in book) its actualy not too much of a hinderance while they are kept in column .Its very hard to game with 7 rated generals or less,as they can often do nothing all battle.So any ideas to represent the usual of Allied generals /staff especially in the earlier years being inferior to the french,while not making the game uneventful for any Alled player.
Jammers wrote:"A Complete Listing of All Cossack Formations in 1812. By Dr. Frhr. von Baumgartner makes a fantastic argument for regular and irregular cossacks/tribal cavalry. Its a great read for you Russian army lovers and is on line ..."
Thanks for that chap.Looking forward to taking on your Russians soon.
The French march on Moscow is one my favourite periods of the Napoleonic Wars. The return trip, where the Irregular Cossacks really came into their own, less so ..
Big Al wrote:A question, while you're there giving these Cossacks additional rules. It's one thing to give them Fear, or causing fear, when they are attacking baggage train guars or small units of skirmishers and villagers, but would larger units be that frightened of them? Would they shake in terror at being charged by them, I wonder, or would they just stand and fight them off? Safety in numbers and what have you. What I am getting at is, perhaps that fear factor should only apply in certain conditions or against certain units. Maybe green units would be affected by their reputation as well?
I don't know enough about them to make an outright objection, or anyhing, so I thought I'd pose the question in the hope that it renews the perspective.
our gaming group is play testing them as previously stated, come along and have a game Al
Big Al wrote:You might be right, Alan, but a word about caution doesn't hurt.
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